The 2nd Location

A true crime podcast with in an depth analysis of crime. If you are little obsessive with needing to know every detail about a crime you are at the right place. I’m not just reading Wikipedia here folks. If you don’t blindly believe everything that the police says, then sit down and listen because you just found a friend. Together we will talk about horrific murders with a focus on both the victims of crime and the victims of the state, the wrongfully accused.

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Episodes

Monday Sep 11, 2023

Speculation alert! In this we episode explore theories about how the murders unfolded that night, Christmas Eve 1975.  Was it a family annihilation, a robbery gone wrong, or a planned hit on Tommy Zeigler that was interrupted by his wife and in-laws resulting in their murders and the wrongful conviction of Tommy Zeigler.  It's all guesses people and I welcome your theories. Let's all meet back here when the DNA results come in.
Sources include:
Phillip Finch, Fatal Flaw: A True Story f Malice and Murder in a Small Southern Town available in pdf on the website https://www.tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com/
Tampa Bay Times, numerous articles by Leorona LaPeter Anton including The Blood and Truth Podcast
 https://www.tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com/  , a website that I believe is maintained by Lynn-Marie Carty.

Sunday Aug 13, 2023

In 1976 Tommy Zeigler was convicted of a quadruple murder and sent to death row, but he has always maintained his innocence. Decades after his conviction Tommy gets a new supporter, Lynn Marie-Carty, a private investigator who comes up with a new potential suspect. In this episode we talk about Tommy's post conviction fight for DNA testing, new theories about the murders developed by Lynn-Marie Carty, and I grow suspicious about why the Oakland Police Chief was spending so much of his time in Winter Garden outside of his jurisdiction.
Sources: 
Fatal Flaw: A True Story of Malice and Murder in a Small Southern Town, by Phillip Finch
https://www.tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com/
 
 
 

Tuesday Aug 01, 2023

Tommy Zeigler was convicted of a quadruple murder in 1976, after fighting for years Tommy finally gets DNA testing in 2002. The results support Tommy's account of the night. In this episode we talk about DNA results and an potential alternate suspect that Tommy's private investigator, Lynn-Marie Carty uncovers decades after the murders.

Monday Jun 12, 2023

In this episode we focus on jury deliberations, the jury's verdict, and the shocking decision of the judge to overturn the jury's sentence. I also begin to address Tommy Zeigler's appeals and evidence that has been uncovered after his conviction. 
Also I re-posted Episode 9 with audio that can actually be listed to. I honestly don't know how that episode got any downloads at all. Geez, I hope I'm not a meme.

Tuesday May 23, 2023

This is a re-posted episode. I didn't realize that the audio had been possessed by a demon, so here is a cleaned up recording, so, no you don't need to call in a exorcist for me.
In this episode we continue to explore Tommy's trial while focusing on the evidence presented by the defense. Tommy takes the stand to declare his innocence, and the prosecution makes a last ditch effort to get accusations that Tommy is gay before the jury.

Sunday May 07, 2023

Steven Judy murdered a young mother and her 3 small children after tricking her into thinking that her car tire was loose and offering to help. While pretending to be a Good Samaritan he got the family into his truck and then raped the mother and murdered her and her 3 children. He was executed within 2 years of his final crime, but before he was executed he confessed to his foster mother that he had raped and murdered 13 to 15 women across 5 states. Could Steven Judy rival America's most well known serial killer, Ted Bundy?
Burn, Judy, Burn by Bette Nunn

Tuesday Apr 18, 2023

Tommy Zeigler is on trial for a quadruple homicide. In this episode we finish discussing the prosecutions side of the trial and address several of the main witnesses that testify against Tommy. 
Main sources for this episode include:
The Fatal Flaw, by Phillip Finch
https://www.tommyzeiglerisinnocent.com/
a website maintained by Tommy Zeigler's investigator, Lynn-Marie Carty

Thursday Apr 06, 2023

Tommy Zeigler has been on death row for over 40 years for murdering his wife, in-laws, and a friend. In this episode I talk about the trial and tactics used by the prosecution to convict a man who very likely may be innocent.  Recently Tommy was finally allowed to have advanced DNA testing conducted on the evidence. So soon we will have some answers.

Sunday Mar 26, 2023

In this episode about the conviction of Tommy Zeigler I talk about pretrial motions as the state rushes Tommy to trial. The defense makes numerous requests for a continuance, all of which are denied. The trial begins before the defense has finished their forensic testing, which will have fatal results for the defense.
Our main source for this episode is:
Fatal Flaw, by Phillip Finch

Thursday Mar 16, 2023

We are continuing our examination of the Florida Furniture Store Murders. In this episode we cover the forensic test results and introduce the state's expert witness, Herb MacDonell, the father of the now largely discredited science of blood spatter analysis.
Source for tis episode:
Phillip Finch, "Fatal Flaw: A True Story of Malice and Murder in a Small Southern Town"
The Leader, John Vick, Corning forensics expert Herb MacDonell facing more allegations, charges
 
 

You have arrived at The 2nd Location, but you have nothing to fear. I'm your host, Holly, and together we are going to explore all aspects of murder, it's causes, the victims, the criminals, trials, and the crimes' impact on society and our system of criminal justice.

There will be light moments, because we are dealing with such a heavy topic, but there will never be any levity at the expense of a victim. We all have made bad decisions in our lives and thankfully most of us survived, in spite of our mistakes.  Let's not mock or second guess the less fortunate of us.

What makes this podcast different? I will question everything and anyone. I don't respect authority and it will show.  If you don't believe that everyone charged with a crime is automatically guilty and if you think that innocent people are convicted of murder this is the podcast for you. You have found your home. Welcome on in.

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